Letters to Flutter-bys, translated by tigre avec Google
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#1: Letters to Flutter-bys, translated by tigre avec Google Author: electrictigerLocation: Birmingham, Alabama PostPosted: Sun Apr 10 7:26:41 EDT 2011
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To those without google, let me be her oracle:

Hello flutterbyzrfree,

It appearS that in the above, the letter I wrote to Nice Lady ----- come this evening, the wind blowing from China, is the abiliTy to blow away, blow away some of the reader's mind that the fog of doUbt, you translation of my work, so that some readers of the heart, the resulting fog of doubt, this is can be wind, blow away, blown away, I think so,

In this way, so I know that the letter written to Nice Lady, the effect produced, it will cause heart existed fog, doubt those readers, so surPrising to ourselves, people say, ah, my God, the orIginal flutterbyzrfree, not a businessman selling demon Yeah, this flutterbyzrfree, not from the East, from the east hole symmetry breaking of the demons of the merchants, with the demons who make our food, ah, this flutterbyzrfree,

Perhaps some other reaDers would say, I want to cheer flutterbyzrfree really great, really great for the flutterByzrfree, thunder of cheers, as brave, very powerful forces flutterbyzrfee, success for us, the East of the demons hole symmetry breaking, our table, for the first time with the demons that beautiful, delicious food, this way, it is likely that our books. pen, it will jump on the table, go in the Oriental demons,

Perhaps, there are readers, will be angry, and now, finally from the lies of the pocket, jumped out of a real rabbit, this rabbit has a demon soul, and now, finally brought it flutterbyzrfree ckets of a lie, , jumped out of a real rabbit, this rabbit has a demon soul, whIch makes our hunters never believed that this flutterbyzrfree not such a person is by no means such a person ----- ----- create such a rabbit out of the demons of the soul who, at this time, this reader would think so, I use my anger anger shotgun, immediately killed the rabbit with the demons of the soul - that Satan, which disrupted We live a quiet valley of Satan, which makes our lives a quiet valley, many of the treasure, and we love the most beautiful flowers, all angry, angry Yuanyuan widened eyes, so we use angry bullets, calm, calm, peaceful elimination of the valley of our lives, many treasure, beautiful flowers and anger,

But the reader, immediately thought of tolerance, tolerance, is the highest contribution to world civilization, then, that ---- the reader his readers, just because of their anger and become crooked mouTh, and change the ugly mouth, suddenly become very beautiful, is not difficult to read, not crooked, suddenly, it attracted the bees of the sea, this is not the boundary of bees, facing the audience singing the heavy, sweet, cool ode, the deepest thanks to you, deepest thanks to you,
The readers do not know, know how bees, why should the reader to sing the praise of poetry, the reader just shook his head, shook his head, replied, bees, would you like to ----- what you should thank me, my dear flower ----- child who is in love with the angel of the flowers are not afraid of difficulties to pass a sweet love letter, and kiss the messenger, ah,

Because we saw the highest contribution to world civilization ----- tolerance, tolerance, forgiveness, tolerance, from your beautiful soul of this tolerance, toleranCe, forgiveness, tolerance ----- the highest contribution to world civilization , as infinite as the cosmic consciousness, sweet, beautiful this tolerance, tolerance, like the beauty of spring flowers and delicate fragrance of this century tolerance, tolerance, like the beautiful moon light heavy sweet and greatest music as beautiful as this tolerance, tolerance, tolerance, tolerance, are burning in your lips, your lips become our king, our God, our most touching magic flowers, a thousand great magic, myth, fairy tales, fragrant miracle We should never see, never taken the nectar of your lips Garden ------ ----- that you create the most beautiful in the world that your lips ----- ----- this world the most beautiful, is this a thousand great garden, we must always in the garden, gathering the nectar

Your infinite beauty, so that we could not ----- not contain prohibited, to kneel at your feet, you surrender to worship with your lips, your noble, great with the most tolerant of the heavy sweet spirit of tolerance soul,

I saw this very interesting bees praise poetry, the reader's faith in this love, worship, so that the reader, suddenly laughing, suddenly laughing, this is too fun, mean, this is too fun, mean, Yes, I would have the most loyal friend Van Loon, Van Loon has been living in my palace in the heart of the beautiful, Van Loon is me, I am Van Loon,


Listen Up, BitcHez


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#2: Re: Letters to Flutter-bys, translated by tigre avec Google Author: electrictigerLocation: Birmingham, Alabama PostPosted: Sun Apr 10 7:42:06 EDT 2011
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Self! What a great translation! But did you consider this? It is both more concise, though some of the accuracy may have eroded in favor of space.
Self, I will be back when I have had more time to put it through Google! Can't wait to see your next write! I thought 'Listen Up, Bitchez' took away from the beauty of the piece, and truncated it to just "Listen". I hope you don't mind self, you know I'm a fan of your work.

How by, on powerful wind
many mind come to know
doubtfog? It flutter by
like troll on website. Like
stupid thought had in morning
before coffee taken.

Business selling demon! go from
here! East-not-East, all door
open to you. Give saliva, exchange
for life, small present and
thunder.

Rabbit, listen my word and mark it,
they affect you too. Satan
live in valley, has eye on
cabbage patch. Beware! Beware!
His floating mindfog hair
like neon sign.

Do not be deceived that I troll,
no troll this clever. flutter-bys
very clever creatures, know the
truth of all mountain cloud
high to infinity. Goddess
walk by head, buzzing in
palace. Full of thousand
garden and laughter of bee.
Think about that.

Listen


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#3: Re: Letters to Flutter-bys, translated by tigre avec Google Author: electrictigerLocation: Birmingham, Alabama PostPosted: Sun Apr 10 7:42:50 EDT 2011
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OMGBOX self, your kind words always touch and inspire me. Self, that's just brilliant! I accidentally copied and pasted "listen" from the translator and thought it was a great addition. I will try leaving it out for now, after considering your words. Oh, self, where do you get these ideas? What do you think about this:

How, strong winds
Understanding of many minds
doubtfog? It consists of flutter
Like the trolls on the site. With
Stupid ideas have in the morning
The first two of coffee.

Business Sales devil! From to
Here! East is not East, all the doors
Open to you. For saliva, AC
Life, small gifts,
Thunder.

Rabbit, rabbit! Listen to me,
They affect you. Satan
Live in the valley, has been eyeing
Cabbage. Beware! Beware!
His hair floating mindfog
Neon.

Troll will not lie to me,
Trolls do not have this smart. Parking flutter
Very intelligent animals, understanding
Mountain cloud the truth of all
High to infinity. Goddess
Through the head, in the humming
Palace. Thousands of filling
Gardens and bees laugh.
Think about that.

Just a thought to use or lose. Self, you always know best.


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#4: Re: Letters to Flutter-bys, translated by tigre avec Google Author: electrictigerLocation: Birmingham, Alabama PostPosted: Sun Apr 10 7:56:58 EDT 2011
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Self, I just wanted to say that your superb mastery of the language has just blown my mind away. BOOM! POW! You really nailed what I was trying to say in the first place with liberal application of Google. Self, I could do this forever! WHY YES, YES I COULD!!!

How the wind
Knowledge in the minds of many
doubtfog? He had a veil
Foul, as in the site. When
Stupid idea early in the morning
There are two first coffee.

Corporate Sales demon! To
Click here! Not all of the east gate of the East
I will open to you. For saliva, AC
Life's little guy,
Thunder.

Listen, Bunny-rabbit
Touch you. Satan
Like a tiger live in the valley
Be careful! Be careful!
Even the very hairs swimming mindfog
Neon.

Troll me, I will not lie
Trolls do not have this smart. Parking veil
Very intelligent animals, understand it
Mountain cloud the truth of all
High to infinity. Goddess
Through the head, the field
Palace. Thousands of filling
Smile bee garden.
Consideration.


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#5: Re: Letters to Flutter-bys, translated by tigre avec Google Author: electrictigerLocation: Birmingham, Alabama PostPosted: Sun Apr 10 8:12:44 EDT 2011
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Self, you could make this into a fine ku, i think.

How wind know thunder?
like satan know old rabbit.
Consideration

or....yes--this is better and deeper--

knowledge of neon doubt
lead rabbit to evil path--
bee sound warning buzz

ku-ku-de-kuuuu! you go, boy.


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#6: Re: Letters to Flutter-bys, translated by tigre avec Google Author: electrictigerLocation: Birmingham, Alabama PostPosted: Sun Apr 10 8:13:33 EDT 2011
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I will come back to myself with a sonnet later, but the second stanza is giving me trouble. ugh!!

#7: Re: Letters to Flutter-bys, translated by tigre avec Google Author: electrictigerLocation: Birmingham, Alabama PostPosted: Sun Apr 10 8:45:12 EDT 2011
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Dear You,

Since no one seems to wants to help you, you will have to help yourself. Keep posting to yourself, and the way will come clear. No one ever said this google-poeting would be easy! Hang in there, and never, never give up.

Sincerely, &
With Warmest Affections,

Me

#8: Re: Letters to Flutter-bys, translated by tigre avec Google Author: mamta PostPosted: Sun Apr 10 10:05:21 EDT 2011
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don't you think you are taking this a bit too far, christopher?

#9: Re: Letters to Flutter-bys, translated by tigre avec Google Author: electrictigerLocation: Birmingham, Alabama PostPosted: Sun Apr 10 10:27:13 EDT 2011
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I am not sure what it is you think I have done. Is talking to oneself a crime? Yes, I admit, its a little eccentric--but since an early age, its been a habit of mine. Once when I was a boy, i was--oh, ten or so--I was walking out to my mailbox, to check the mail. A bird was hopping around the sidewalk--and without thinking I said "Hello, Bird!". To my chagrin, my neighbor, who had never been my No. 1 fan, was at his own mailbox, and he stopped to look at me...and shook his head gravely. "Faggot" he muttered, under his breath. I've never been quite so embarrassed in my life. I ran back inside, almost in tears. Since then I do not greet birds, or otherwise attempt to engage them in conversation. Not even when I am in the best of moods. Thus, I leave my conversations with me to me at the safe distance of strangers. This is a poem about me making fun of me, among other things. If you can't laugh at yourself, well, someone else will. I have learned this the hard way. If the text of the poem seems absurd, take heart, it based on a true story. Just not the story about the bird.

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#10: Re: Letters to Flutter-bys, translated by tigre avec Google Author: Deleted_User_1997 PostPosted: Sun Apr 10 10:30:48 EDT 2011
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Why mamta? It seems to me that he is doing almost exactly was she is doing, but at least acknowledges the ridiculousness of it. It seems evident that our dear Chinese friend is unaware of what his words are coming out to mean. As a result how really can he give clear consent or actually think that his poems are being represented in a reasonable way? Do you think that they are being represented in a reasonable way? If you were a non-English speaking/reading person would you think that your poetry was being man handled by Google translate? These are real questions that I am asking. And I would really like some real answers from the staff.

Tiger is having a bit of fun with himself, in my opinion. And before you make Butter into a victim it would be best to point out that it is she that first ran to the finished section to post "Sucks. I hate it!" and rate me a 1 on a poem. I didn't do that to her. In fact, my only issue is in how she is treating this man's poetry through the use of Google. Well, what is fair for her seems to be what is fair for Tiger.

This may seem distasteful to you and others, but what she is doing seems distasteful to me and others. I am sure that there is a way of resolving this, but I don't see anyone suggesting a way to do that.

#11: Re: Letters to Flutter-bys, translated by tigre avec Google Author: Deleted_User_1997 PostPosted: Sun Apr 10 10:34:23 EDT 2011
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oh, petit tigre, I like the second poem and the haikus that best.

#12: Re: Letters to Flutter-bys, translated by tigre avec Google Author: electrictigerLocation: Birmingham, Alabama PostPosted: Sun Apr 10 10:35:58 EDT 2011
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I like the haikus as well. They never would have occured to me if I hadn't engaged in this experiment. Inspiration lurks in mysterious places.

#13: Re: Letters to Flutter-bys, translated by tigre avec Google Author: mamta PostPosted: Sun Apr 10 10:36:20 EDT 2011
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audie, mayo , birdie whoever you are stop playing your dirty games. you are a respected poet on this site, you need not do this.

when john asked all of you to use the block list , why did you rate this 4 as audie

www.gotpoetry.com/Poem...97626.html

isnt it cheating? dont you feel ashamed. i have seen you doing this before with many of the other poets. when they block you as ;mayo, you come as audie or as birdie and rate. arent you a well wisher of this site? then...

before pointing fingers at others, clear the dirt in your mind.

#14: Re: Letters to Flutter-bys, translated by tigre avec Google Author: Deleted_User_1997 PostPosted: Sun Apr 10 10:39:29 EDT 2011
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Is that your intelligent response to my query, mamta?


who the hell is birdie?

#15: Re: Letters to Flutter-bys, translated by tigre avec Google Author: mamta PostPosted: Sun Apr 10 10:41:06 EDT 2011
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i dont need to respond to someone like you mayo. sorry.....

#16: Re: Letters to Flutter-bys, translated by tigre avec Google Author: electrictigerLocation: Birmingham, Alabama PostPosted: Sun Apr 10 10:41:18 EDT 2011
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mamta wrote:
audie, mayo , birdie whoever you are stop playing your dirty games. you are a respected poet on this site, you need not do this.

when john asked all of you to use the block list , why did you rate this 4 as audie

www.gotpoetry.com/Poem...97626.html

isnt it cheating? dont you feel ashamed. i have seen you doing this before with many of the other poets. when they block you as ;mayo, you come as audie or as birdie and rate. arent you a well wisher of this site? then...

before pointing fingers at others, clear the dirt in your mind.

I have no access to Audie's account, and have never done any such thing.
How can I possibly feel shame for an act I didn't commit?

#17: Re: Letters to Flutter-bys, translated by tigre avec Google Author: mamta PostPosted: Sun Apr 10 10:42:42 EDT 2011
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i am not talking about you i replied to mayo's post.

#18: Re: Letters to Flutter-bys, translated by tigre avec Google Author: Deleted_User_1997 PostPosted: Sun Apr 10 10:42:50 EDT 2011
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Oh, she is talking to me petit tigre.

#19: Re: Letters to Flutter-bys, translated by tigre avec Google Author: Deleted_User_1997 PostPosted: Sun Apr 10 10:43:24 EDT 2011
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mamta wrote:
i dont need to respond to someone like you mayo. sorry.....

someone like me?

#20: Re: Letters to Flutter-bys, translated by tigre avec Google Author: electrictigerLocation: Birmingham, Alabama PostPosted: Sun Apr 10 10:46:47 EDT 2011
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I apologize, I thought "birdie" was directed at me. Please Mamta, I do believe your initial anger was directed at me, and I am happy to shoulder it. There is no need to take it out on Mayo.

#21: Re: Letters to Flutter-bys, translated by tigre avec Google Author: Deleted_User_1997 PostPosted: Sun Apr 10 10:47:47 EDT 2011
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mamta wrote:
audie, mayo , birdie whoever you are stop playing your dirty games. you are a respected poet on this site, you need not do this.

when john asked all of you to use the block list , why did you rate this 4 as audie

www.gotpoetry.com/Poem...97626.html

isnt it cheating? dont you feel ashamed. i have seen you doing this before with many of the other poets. when they block you as ;mayo, you come as audie or as birdie and rate. arent you a well wisher of this site? then...

before pointing fingers at others, clear the dirt in your mind.

One, you don't know what the hell you are talking about. And no I do not feel ashamed. My ip address is shared by a total of seven people. Just because you feel like being a dick doesn't mean that I am one.

#22: Re: Letters to Flutter-bys, translated by tigre avec Google Author: electrictigerLocation: Birmingham, Alabama PostPosted: Sun Apr 10 10:48:02 EDT 2011
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#23: Re: Letters to Flutter-bys, translated by tigre avec Google Author: electrictigerLocation: Birmingham, Alabama PostPosted: Sun Apr 10 10:50:14 EDT 2011
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Note to Self: writing poems from you to you can be dangerous. In the future, wear a safety helmet.

#24: Re: Letters to Flutter-bys, translated by tigre avec Google Author: mamta PostPosted: Sun Apr 10 10:50:31 EDT 2011
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electrictiger wrote:
I apologize, I thought "birdie" was directed at me. Please Mamta, I do believe your initial anger was directed at me, and I am happy to shoulder it. .


No, it wasn't. But I feel sorry to see the way she made a fool out of both you and Izmeiah [ hope i spelt it right]. I have nothing else to say. Keep up the good work. But don't hurt your fellow poets.

#25: Re: Letters to Flutter-bys, translated by tigre avec Google Author: electrictigerLocation: Birmingham, Alabama PostPosted: Sun Apr 10 10:52:44 EDT 2011
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I would never intentially hurt a fellow poet. As for Izmeiah, it is unlikely that he will be living much longer. He is suffering from Crest's Syndrome,
as well as a form of acute diabetic neuropathy that has proceeded to a point that is irreversible. This might not seem relevant to the discussion, but a person in agony may find anything, anything at all that distracts him a boon, and a person who loves him may find anything, anything that lightens his day the lesser of two evils. If anyone is to make a fool of either of us, it will be the other, and never with malice. Mischief is another matter, and also, not the same thing.

Edit: related remark added:
Nothing has been done to gail, that I am aware of, other than an expressed (and very honest) disapproval of her blatantly relentless use of a machine to translate a language she doesn't comprehend, and pass it off as meaningful, representative, or even art. With the approval of a person who, if he is not a troll, is unable to possibly evaluate what she has done. I believe she has the right to keep doing it and I believe I have the right to express myself as well. If you fail to understand why this is offensive, maybe you should re-examine why you write or read poetry. I am sorry, I should applaud such efforts. And why are my own efforts not as worthwhile? This post was not directed at anyone in particular, and was me amusing me, and if it amuses someone else, all the better. What is good for the goose is good for the gander.


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#26: Re: Letters to Flutter-bys, translated by tigre avec Google Author: mamta PostPosted: Sun Apr 10 11:03:41 EDT 2011
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what makes you think that I am gonna live for long?

#27: Re: Letters to Flutter-bys, translated by tigre avec Google Author: electrictigerLocation: Birmingham, Alabama PostPosted: Sun Apr 10 11:20:43 EDT 2011
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I was not talking about your living, but rather Izmeiah's. I know how much longer I have with him, perhaps until christmas, barring some bizarre miracle. Also, do not take offense, but I do not love you (nor you me), and therefore, your living means much less to me than Izmeiah's. It does not mean nothing, though, and I wish you well, and bountiful health, and as much goodwill as one person who does not know another can possibly summon. For all anyone knows, even you, perhaps I won't be much longer living either. It is only relevant to those that love us.

#28: Re: Letters to Flutter-bys, translated by tigre avec Google Author: electrictigerLocation: Birmingham, Alabama PostPosted: Sun Apr 10 11:23:06 EDT 2011
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Also, if you need someone to take whatever you are really angry about on, please, I don't mind. I forgive you in advance.

#29: Re: Letters to Flutter-bys, translated by tigre avec Google Author: mamta PostPosted: Sun Apr 10 11:25:38 EDT 2011
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i don't think this site or forums are places to take out our personal frustrations or anger. if i am unwell, sick, not going to live for long; it does not give me the right to come here and insult others, ridicule others, bully others.

#30: Re: Letters to Flutter-bys, translated by tigre avec Google Author: electrictigerLocation: Birmingham, Alabama PostPosted: Sun Apr 10 11:27:41 EDT 2011
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I think our discussion about bullying was already covered amply. I believe that something else is troubling you, and I can't help that you are angry about an undetermined cause. If what you are doing (please see above) is not you venting some personal frustration, I am not sure what else you would call it. Again, I don't mind. Please. It is not healthy to keep things pent up inside. You misunderstand if you believe our self-expression was done to arouse a sick friend. That it did engage him is not something I will lose sleep over, though.

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#31: Re: Letters to Flutter-bys, translated by tigre avec Google Author: mamta PostPosted: Sun Apr 10 11:38:44 EDT 2011
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something is troubling you tiger. Wink dont put it on me.

i only spoke about the poetry here and rating . you brought out the dying thing and as i said none of us know when we'll die. i am taking my leave cos gp is not the be all of my life. i have other better things to do . you can keep adding to the posts if you like. Wink i will read them later. Wink

#32: Re: Letters to Flutter-bys, translated by tigre avec Google Author: electrictigerLocation: Birmingham, Alabama PostPosted: Sun Apr 10 11:39:14 EDT 2011
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Well, I'm really glad we had this discussion. I feel closer to you, but, a little worried. Now I am worried about your health, and before I was not. I hope that you are ok. If you need someone to talk to, try to talking to yourself. Really! It helps. I know how silly that sounds. Or even to someone like me, who is perhaps not the monster you have imagined him to be. I'm off to lunch!

#33: Re: Letters to Flutter-bys, translated by tigre avec Google Author: Deleted_User_1997 PostPosted: Sun Apr 10 14:48:18 EDT 2011
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all hail, the great oracle, Mamta. She has found me out. I am really the anonymous saboteur that rates everyone 1s on a daily basis. I am the member of this community that wishes nothing but harm to all that visit these hallowed halls. I do it because I am evil and vicious and petty. Oh, she caught me red handed and I now will face the firing squad. Let this be the death of me on GotPoetry. Rolling Eyes

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#34: Re: Letters to Flutter-bys, translated by tigre avec Google Author: omegapafLocation: an unfashionable end of the galaxy PostPosted: Sun Apr 10 15:15:37 EDT 2011
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to tiger.....is there something wrong with you? don't you have anything better to do than to slag off other poets and write messages to yourself, and kiss mayos arse. and your friend izmeiah is ill.....so what? a lot of people are ill. it doesn't give them a valid excuse, for behaving like and arsehole. i know at least three people on gotpoetry that are dying, but they still behave in a reasonable way.
and to mayo. why do you come on this site? all i ever see from you is a load of half baked rude opinions, and low ratings..like i said to tiger, have'nt you got anything better to do? do you know how hard mamta works on this site? when she has a lot of other things to do. and you obviously have no idea how hard gail has worked on these translations, with dozens of e-mails backwards and forwards with the chinese guy.
i'd appreciate it if you and your entourage would leave me and my people alone in the future. i'm pretty sure that none of the people on my buddy list have any interest in anything you've got to say - paul.

#35: Re: Letters to Flutter-bys, translated by tigre avec Google Author: omegapafLocation: an unfashionable end of the galaxy PostPosted: Sun Apr 10 17:01:20 EDT 2011
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why has my comment disapeared? who is fucking around with these posts?

#36: Re: Letters to Flutter-bys, translated by tigre avec Google Author: Deleted_User_1997 PostPosted: Sun Apr 10 18:45:10 EDT 2011
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oh, paul. i love you. you are the most loyal of friends. If I wanted a friend I would want you. Seriously, you are fantastic.

In response to your request for me to leave. I have packed my bags and I am waiting for every one of your buddy list to throw their stones. For like you said there is not a one of them that would wish me here. When they are all done stoning me I will silently leave. Let the stoning begin.

#37: Re: Letters to Flutter-bys, translated by tigre avec Google Author: Deleted_User_1997 PostPosted: Sun Apr 10 18:51:03 EDT 2011
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In addition, paul, what you said about Izmeiah is about one of the ugliest things that I have ever read on GP. Who cares? I do. You fucking asshole!

#38: Re: Letters to Flutter-bys, translated by tigre avec Google Author: IzmeiahLocation: Alabama PostPosted: Sun Apr 10 19:44:05 EDT 2011
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My, my, such hostility. Mamta I would expect that you, being the you that you are an not some other you. Would be enthused to have someone defending the integrity of your poets, and their work. It seems to me that we're unable to become vocal about the things that are upsetting to us. Must we swallow bile? I'm afraid I do not understand. I would like to know what you think you know of Audie, dear Mamta, she doesn't write about moon's. As far as I can tell she's one of the only decent poets on this site. So what if Christopher writes to himself, from himself? It seems to me the real issue is the spider in the room. Constantly in fear of a bite by a real venom the poets stand on chairs and scream.

#39: Re: Letters to Flutter-bys, translated by tigre avec Google Author: IzmeiahLocation: Alabama PostPosted: Sun Apr 10 19:49:18 EDT 2011
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omegapaf

Low scores to low poets - only the BEST poets are on YOUR friends list. LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWL

#40: Re: Letters to Flutter-bys, translated by tigre avec Google Author: Deleted_User_1997 PostPosted: Sun Apr 10 19:54:34 EDT 2011
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aww, in mamta and omegapaf's point of view I am the spider, Izmeiah. Sorry. I bite. Beware! I have lead you down horribly dark ways.

#41: Re: Letters to Flutter-bys, translated by tigre avec Google Author: electrictigerLocation: Birmingham, Alabama PostPosted: Sun Apr 10 20:45:57 EDT 2011
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omegapaf wrote:
to tiger.....is there something wrong with you? don't you have anything better to do than to slag off other poets and write messages to yourself, and kiss mayos arse. and your friend izmeiah is ill.....so what? a lot of people are ill. it doesn't give them a valid excuse, for behaving like and arsehole. i know at least three people on gotpoetry that are dying, but they still behave in a reasonable way.
and to mayo. why do you come on this site? all i ever see from you is a load of half baked rude opinions, and low ratings..like i said to tiger, have'nt you got anything better to do? do you know how hard mamta works on this site? when she has a lot of other things to do. and you obviously have no idea how hard gail has worked on these translations, with dozens of e-mails backwards and forwards with the chinese guy.
i'd appreciate it if you and your entourage would leave me and my people alone in the future. i'm pretty sure that none of the people on my buddy list have any interest in anything you've got to say - paul.


Well, Paul, I might ask you if you don't have anything better to do than to defend a woman who masquerades google as high art, cowering behind others while throwing tantrums and stones. Butterfly writes messages to herself on a fairly regular basis (reference, for example Alone in the Beautiful Round Room) ; I assumed you connected the dots? I assumed everyone did. 'Course you did, Blanche. Good. Let's not bring up the mutual orgy of ass-kissing that goes on in your own little circle ('Your People'; Who are you anyway, Moses? Sorry, I'm more interested in poetry than a Friendship Club. The NERVE of me.), coz that doesn't concern me. It's human nature to assemble into small groups and tell each other that you're the best--no, no--you're the best! OH NO SIR, YOU'RE THE BEST! I COULD FEEL THE EMOTION IN THE WRITE, JUST.... FLOWING. OH NO! YOURs WAS MORE PROFOUND! OH YES! By the way, I'm fairly certain you're pretty interested in what I have to say, else you wouldn't have taken time from your busy gratzing schedule to scribble your crayon anger at me. Just sayin!

May I offer you a small piece of advice? Get a grip. Also, if it makes you feel better, ball up your little hands into fists. Turn red, scream. Pound things. Tell yourself that you are really, really a good poet. Gosh-darnit! It doesn't matter to me. Call me an asshole, if you like. Make it your signature if you prefer: "electric tiger is a mean asshole and i hate him! Down with tiger! Let him eat 1's!" It would amuse me. Draw lurid little pictures in my likeness and pee on them, then burn them, perhaps. Write mocking poems. Do what you need to do to make you feel that your little world is safe and ok, and that you are important in its larger figurings.

Nothing, for instance in this particular post, that I can think of, should have incited such a frenzy in a normal person. You go on thinking whatever you want, and I'll go on not being very interested. Sound like a plan? YUS! I like it too.

P.S. You give me no credit--you have no idea how hard I've worked on these translations myself--all that googling will tire a pour lil tiger's finger right out. Ironically, it appears my google-poems have been much more effective at stiring up emotion than hers. Craziness!


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#42: Re: Letters to Flutter-bys, translated by tigre avec Google Author: electrictigerLocation: Birmingham, Alabama PostPosted: Sun Apr 10 20:53:13 EDT 2011
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Mayo wrote:
aww, in mamta and omegapaf's point of view I am the spider, Izmeiah. Sorry. I bite. Beware! I have lead you down horribly dark ways.
And Mayo--my god, these people should realize my cat and I have been walking dark paths far from the shadow of jesus and all that is wholesome since we tore out way out of our mother's wombs. If you are the devil, then I choose the devil. At least she's intelligent.

#43: Re: Letters to Flutter-bys, translated by tigre avec Google Author: IzmeiahLocation: Alabama PostPosted: Sun Apr 10 21:20:01 EDT 2011
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Mamta, just so you know, Audie or Mayo - whomever she is. Had similar writing styles and similar dismissals. While I didn't know they were the same person I assure you to find out that Mayo is Audie makes me only want to rally behind her all the more. Also - as Mayo I would say things to her that I never would have said to Audie. It isn't often that I am confused or have the wool pulled over my eyes, but I'm glad that it was done by someone that I consider a peer or a teacher, and not some drivel from a poet slam.

#44: Re: Letters to Flutter-bys, translated by tigre avec Google Author: IzmeiahLocation: Alabama PostPosted: Sun Apr 10 21:23:13 EDT 2011
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Edit: As Audie Cat and I stood in awe of her splendor, counting her as pure talent. We idolized her and ran over her poetry eagerly, fervently. Now that she casts away her cloak of death, she rises from the grave in true form. Oh how we quiver in antici------pation.

#45: Re: Letters to Flutter-bys, translated by tigre avec Google Author: mamta PostPosted: Sun Apr 10 21:45:28 EDT 2011
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tiger - nothing much to say here.

izmeiah - there is no hostility. dont take out your anger by rating a person low or logging in with another account and rating low when that person has blocked you. that is not fair.

mayo - dont judge me by your standards. yes, it's unfair to log in as audie and rate the poets here low when they have blocked you as mayo and i still stand by that.

#46: Re: Letters to Flutter-bys, translated by tigre avec Google Author: IzmeiahLocation: Alabama PostPosted: Sun Apr 10 21:51:02 EDT 2011
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@Mayo - I have been lead astray. I can no longer see the shining towers of GP the grandmasters are all going to pass me by! Where on Earth will I find another writer to read that's as good as Rondo? /cry/cry/cry.

#47: Re: Letters to Flutter-bys, translated by tigre avec Google Author: IzmeiahLocation: Alabama PostPosted: Sun Apr 10 21:53:59 EDT 2011
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I only have one account her. I rate low because the poems I rate suck. Show me a good poem, I'll rate it a 5, show me an outstanding poem and I'll rate it a 10. I am not being unfair. Also I am not angry, I am quite level headed. I have not been rude to you - ever. I have been rude only to those who were rude to me first. I am generally pretty easy to get along with. Also - I'm quite funny. Most people don't know this about me though.

#48: Re: Letters to Flutter-bys, translated by tigre avec Google Author: electrictigerLocation: Birmingham, Alabama PostPosted: Sun Apr 10 22:09:30 EDT 2011
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If all this is still not clear, consider this. If that still doesn't help, you may be hopelessly _________________________.

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#49: Re: Letters to Flutter-bys, translated by tigre avec Google Author: IzmeiahLocation: Alabama PostPosted: Mon Apr 11 1:04:29 EDT 2011
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@Paul - Omegapaf or whatever,

Do you honestly think that I would deign to care about your opinions/beliefs/codas/nouns? We are all adults here; you can call me an asshole like a big boy. You, unfortunately miss the point. As usual. I suspect some where in this great land of ours there is a warehouse, or possibly 2 or 3 and nestled inside them, sleeping like babies, are all the things in this world you do not understand.

In plain terms, butt out. You're a drone to a Queen bee - there's another bee reference for you. You hide behind the murmurings of a wounded dove, and in defense you strike out to the tune of pheromones, and instinct.

At least when I strike out it's against something that I truly feel is awful. Or to be ridiculed, or just plain shitty - if you want to go lowbrow. (and I might) The fact of the matter is you and the rest of your buddy list all fall into category 2, and if you've been paying attention to the threads, then you know what category I mean. (good job!)

Edit: HMMMMmmmmmmmm Very Happy


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#50: Re: Letters to Flutter-bys, translated by tigre avec Google Author: electrictigerLocation: Birmingham, Alabama PostPosted: Mon Apr 11 1:34:29 EDT 2011
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Love, love, love,

the cats

#51: Re: Letters to Flutter-bys, translated by tigre avec Google Author: IzmeiahLocation: Alabama PostPosted: Mon Apr 11 1:44:15 EDT 2011
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Cattu we're fucked when it comes to staff picks now. Nobody loves us, everybody hates us, we're gonna eat some worms.

#52: Re: Letters to Flutter-bys, translated by tigre avec Google Author: electrictigerLocation: Birmingham, Alabama PostPosted: Mon Apr 11 2:00:16 EDT 2011
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You're such an optimist, cattu. To liberally paraphrase Dr. Manhattan "[We] were always fucked." If you need confirmation of this
conclusion, read

You Are Fucked

#53: Re: Letters to Flutter-bys, translated by tigre avec Google Author: IzmeiahLocation: Alabama PostPosted: Mon Apr 11 3:15:02 EDT 2011
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Look cats! I found this wonderful product on Google shopping, it's only 19.95, I think if we all chip in it'll be worth it. It'll allow us to mangle someone else's work and post it as your own! Oh, to think that we could all enjoy this from the comfort of our retirement homes/lonely apartments! I for one cannot wait to receive mine, and if I act now they'll send me a rotisserie oven, and I can set my poem in and fucking forget it!


Google Poem Injector

#54: Re: Letters to Flutter-bys, translated by tigre avec Google Author: Deleted_User_1997 PostPosted: Mon Apr 11 3:27:17 EDT 2011
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boys, keep writing poems and keep sharpening your wit. It will serve you well in life.

mamta, I will judge you by whatever standards I have at my disposal. Your vitriol towards me is palpable in the air. It makes you seem spiteful and ugly. And just so everyone gets a glimpse of your dirty underwear, you rate people low anonymously all the time. Check out her average if you don't believe me.

and boys, one thing, I admire paul his loyalty. When he befriends you, until he unfriends you, he will go to the mat for you. He has told so many people to get the hell off of GotPoetry with passion and conviction. Though, I am more of a let's talk it out kind of person, I admire his spunk greatly. What you see is what you get. I have respect for that kind of person.

And finally, although others would like to put words and feelings into my mouth, my only issue with butter is this google thing. I have stated before why. And when I said in my post that I was grateful to her for challenging me to think outside the box I was being honest. She has made me think outside the box about what i would do with Google translate. She has made me want to do installation work and for that I am thankful and will credit her in my future work as a result.

#55: Re: Letters to Flutter-bys, translated by tigre avec Google Author: electrictigerLocation: Birmingham, Alabama PostPosted: Mon Apr 11 3:27:20 EDT 2011
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O-M-F-G-B-U-R-G-E-R.

Ahvu, Ahvu. Mey cattu muy prantiku! Ec paytu litha su*

*This language is not currently available in Google in any state. It never will be.

#56: Re: Letters to Flutter-bys, translated by tigre avec Google Author: IzmeiahLocation: Alabama PostPosted: Mon Apr 11 3:30:36 EDT 2011
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Notra essu may cattu muy pratik es su nova alltra litha es!

#57: Re: Letters to Flutter-bys, translated by tigre avec Google Author: electrictigerLocation: Birmingham, Alabama PostPosted: Mon Apr 11 3:46:20 EDT 2011
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P.S. To those who are still interpreting this as full of some sort of sound or fury, I do not know what to tell you. Our laughter has forgotten its original subject, and is just laughter. We forgot the rest of you well over a page ago. This is the province of two old friends.

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#58: Re: Letters to Flutter-bys, translated by tigre avec Google Author: IzmeiahLocation: Alabama PostPosted: Mon Apr 11 3:49:39 EDT 2011
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Q: Who?

Edit: Yes cattu, we've been sugar and sulfur for as long as I can remember. When the world collapses and there is nothing left we two will be in our witches shoes, listening to opera. Until the world rattles apart and becomes triangles and the clicking of plates. Until there is nothing but the cry of omega it will be us two, listening for prophecy in the little things, like broken tea cups, the smell of fresh laundry, the heaviness of everything, we drink tea for two.


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#59: thoughts on loyalty Author: electrictigerLocation: Birmingham, Alabama PostPosted: Mon Apr 11 3:57:42 EDT 2011
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A:

Gone you;

Gone you;

Gone you also;

Gone even dear you, to some unimaginably beautiful elsewhere.

There was always & ever only (the two) of us at play in the empty room.

#60: Re: Letters to Flutter-bys, translated by tigre avec Google Author: Deleted_User_1997 PostPosted: Mon Apr 11 5:33:11 EDT 2011
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hehehe

#61: Re: Letters to Flutter-bys, translated by tigre avec Google Author: fogglethorpeLocation: Sonoran Desert PostPosted: Mon Apr 11 11:45:49 EDT 2011
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electrictiger..we have gotten along well up to now, and I would like that to continue. But starting threads to harass and ridicule another member is wrong, and you need to knock it off. If you have a problem with Gail, offer her substantive, civil critique, or just don't read her at all.

Izmeiah..your posts are nasty and abusive. This is a poetry forum. Try to remember that.

omagapaf replied here only to defend his friend Gail. There is no need for anyone to attack him.

One other thing..I don't know if anyone realizes how much time and energy Mamta contributes to this community, and also has a busy life outside of it. She is always civil, decent, and reasonable, so give her a break.

I am going to lock this thread now. ET and Iz..please move on and concentrate on poetry. Thank you.



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